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		<title>by: Abd'ALLAH</title>
		<link>http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/2005/10/05/linguistic-imperialism/#comment-787</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>AsSalaamu alaikum,



Some months back I had received a post on the subject of &quot;Salaam&quot;,

cannot find it in the folders, it was a reminder/teaching us to

promote the use of / greeting with &quot;Salaam&quot;. Instances were provided

from the noble Sunnah, - and its benefits to foster human relations.

On the subject of Dawah there are specific instructions relating to the

situation, i.e. who are you addressing, whether the audience is muslim,

there are intructions for the teacher and Daee in surah al'Anam, verse

6: 54.  typed below is the english translation :- 

&quot;And when those who believe in Our Ayaats-(Signs) come unto thee,

say : SaLaMun alaykum ! Your Rabb-(The Lord) has katabe-(prescribed 

or written) for HimSelf Mercy, that who-so of you did wrong through 

jahalate-(pagan ignorance) and repents afterwards, and does right,

(for him) truely Allah is Ghafoor-ur-Raheem-(Forgiving and Merciful)&quot;. 

These are the posts which I appreciated most, is the best way to 

invite to al-Islam. Have been on a few muslim lists for over 18

months and read the debates, - those on the errors within the ummah-

are also very useful, with thanks to the contributors and List-owners.

Many may have heard of an english saying : - &quot;the first impression is

the last(ing) impression&quot;.  If your dawah starts on the right foot-(with

the True and fair word) there are greater chances of success.

If a student checks with the index of the Quran, he will find the ayats of

&quot;Salaam&quot; mentioned in many occasions, A post specially to list them all

would be very beneficial. Instances = in Jannah, -when the malaika-(angels) 

address a nabi, -when entering a house, -when taking leave from arguements, and many other occasions. 

In the Quran Majeed, surah Hashr 59:23 is mentioned that &quot;As'Salaamo&quot;

is one of (The Names) al'Asmao ul'Husna of ALLAH Taala. If you see the root

of the Word &quot;SaLaM&quot;, i.e. S'een L'am M'eem, are also the root of other

important names, e.g. muSLiM, iSLaM, jeruSaLeM, Dar-el-iSLaM, this is the

road-way or transit to Jannah, where the greeting is &quot;Salamun, Salamun&quot;.

The Sunnah from Allah Ta'ala does not change. We will see that shytan

does not confess the wrong in this world, but the children of Adam-(a.s.) 

can, and should remove the error and seek forgiveness and mercy. The dua

of Yunas-(a.s.)-also called Ayat-Kareemah, when he was caught in the 

depths of darkness is mentioned in surah al'Anbiya 21 : 87 - 

&quot;La elaha illa Unta Sobhana'Ka, inni konto min-azzalemeen&quot;, 

i.e. None is elah-(maaboud to worship and serve) except Thee, Be

Thou Sanctified-(Glorified) . Truely, I have been a wrong-doer &quot;.

We repeat the Dua to ALLAH Taala to keep/guide us on Sirat al'Mostaqim,

ameen.  Thank you for your attention,

wa salaamun alaykum

Abd'ALLAH
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>AsSalaamu alaikum,</p>
	<p>Some months back I had received a post on the subject of &#8220;Salaam&#8221;,</p>
	<p>cannot find it in the folders, it was a reminder/teaching us to</p>
	<p>promote the use of / greeting with &#8220;Salaam&#8221;. Instances were provided</p>
	<p>from the noble Sunnah, - and its benefits to foster human relations.</p>
	<p>On the subject of Dawah there are specific instructions relating to the</p>
	<p>situation, i.e. who are you addressing, whether the audience is muslim,</p>
	<p>there are intructions for the teacher and Daee in surah al&#8217;Anam, verse</p>
	<p>6: 54.  typed below is the english translation :- </p>
	<p>&#8220;And when those who believe in Our Ayaats-(Signs) come unto thee,</p>
	<p>say : SaLaMun alaykum ! Your Rabb-(The Lord) has katabe-(prescribed </p>
	<p>or written) for HimSelf Mercy, that who-so of you did wrong through </p>
	<p>jahalate-(pagan ignorance) and repents afterwards, and does right,</p>
	<p>(for him) truely Allah is Ghafoor-ur-Raheem-(Forgiving and Merciful)&#8221;. </p>
	<p>These are the posts which I appreciated most, is the best way to </p>
	<p>invite to al-Islam. Have been on a few muslim lists for over 18</p>
	<p>months and read the debates, - those on the errors within the ummah-</p>
	<p>are also very useful, with thanks to the contributors and List-owners.</p>
	<p>Many may have heard of an english saying : - &#8220;the first impression is</p>
	<p>the last(ing) impression&#8221;.  If your dawah starts on the right foot-(with</p>
	<p>the True and fair word) there are greater chances of success.</p>
	<p>If a student checks with the index of the Quran, he will find the ayats of</p>
	<p>&#8220;Salaam&#8221; mentioned in many occasions, A post specially to list them all</p>
	<p>would be very beneficial. Instances = in Jannah, -when the malaika-(angels) </p>
	<p>address a nabi, -when entering a house, -when taking leave from arguements, and many other occasions. </p>
	<p>In the Quran Majeed, surah Hashr 59:23 is mentioned that &#8220;As&#8217;Salaamo&#8221;</p>
	<p>is one of (The Names) al&#8217;Asmao ul&#8217;Husna of ALLAH Taala. If you see the root</p>
	<p>of the Word &#8220;SaLaM&#8221;, i.e. S&#8217;een L&#8217;am M&#8217;eem, are also the root of other</p>
	<p>important names, e.g. muSLiM, iSLaM, jeruSaLeM, Dar-el-iSLaM, this is the</p>
	<p>road-way or transit to Jannah, where the greeting is &#8220;Salamun, Salamun&#8221;.</p>
	<p>The Sunnah from Allah Ta&#8217;ala does not change. We will see that shytan</p>
	<p>does not confess the wrong in this world, but the children of Adam-(a.s.) </p>
	<p>can, and should remove the error and seek forgiveness and mercy. The dua</p>
	<p>of Yunas-(a.s.)-also called Ayat-Kareemah, when he was caught in the </p>
	<p>depths of darkness is mentioned in surah al&#8217;Anbiya 21 : 87 - </p>
	<p>&#8220;La elaha illa Unta Sobhana&#8217;Ka, inni konto min-azzalemeen&#8221;, </p>
	<p>i.e. None is elah-(maaboud to worship and serve) except Thee, Be</p>
	<p>Thou Sanctified-(Glorified) . Truely, I have been a wrong-doer &#8220;.</p>
	<p>We repeat the Dua to ALLAH Taala to keep/guide us on Sirat al&#8217;Mostaqim,</p>
	<p>ameen.  Thank you for your attention,</p>
	<p>wa salaamun alaykum</p>
	<p>Abd&#8217;ALLAH
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		<title>by: educate</title>
		<link>http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/2005/10/05/linguistic-imperialism/#comment-759</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 18:15:59 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks for the information, it was very helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for the information, it was very helpful.
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		<title>by: raven</title>
		<link>http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/2005/10/05/linguistic-imperialism/#comment-181</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:59:21 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey, who're you calling Dia? Don't even get me started on the tay/hay debate, BarakaT. And what's a desi without the head bobby thing? :)

Thanks, libertarian. We strive to please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey, who&#8217;re you calling Dia? Don&#8217;t even get me started on the tay/hay debate, BarakaT. And what&#8217;s a desi without the head bobby thing? <img src='http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>Thanks, libertarian. We strive to please.
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		<title>by: libertarian</title>
		<link>http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/2005/10/05/linguistic-imperialism/#comment-180</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:13:37 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>raven, great rant ... enjoyed it thoroughly!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>raven, great rant &#8230; enjoyed it thoroughly!
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		<title>by: Baraka</title>
		<link>http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/2005/10/05/linguistic-imperialism/#comment-160</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:28:05 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>“viewers, hum short break kay baad milte hain,” 

I can't stop giggling over this one, Dia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>“viewers, hum short break kay baad milte hain,” </p>
	<p>I can&#8217;t stop giggling over this one, Dia!
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		<title>by: Baraka</title>
		<link>http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/2005/10/05/linguistic-imperialism/#comment-159</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:27:15 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Lol--excellent write up R! :)  

Zia definitely took things a bit far by making khabarnama incomprehensible, &amp;amp; I too have no idea what the anthem means. 

You raise interesting points on culture. When is it an indigenous &amp;amp; natural mutation (e.g., Ramzaan) &amp;amp; when is it incorrect? 

If a Westerner says Mozlem, Izlam, or Achmed, what's wrong with that? That's just the way their palate works right? I think the finer point you make is the sense of superiority/chauvanism involved. Of course the whole concept of adaab arz, Persian, etc., was just as imperialistc as Arabic is now but we associate it with corn flakes &amp;amp; childhood so it seems cozier. 

Dr Abdullah of the Nawawi Foundation makes an interesting point about &quot;khuda&quot; which he terms an ancient &amp;amp; honorable word for God, interchangeable with Allah. Sometimes we get so lost in the bars of the letters that we forget what they're pointing to. It's like Muslims I meet here who refuse to use the word God &amp;amp; always insist on saying &quot;Allah&quot; to non-Muslims &amp;amp; then get miffed that they think we worship some pagan deity!

BTW, I'm going to keep saying Ramadhan because otherwise I'll have to do the desi head bobby thingy &amp;amp; we can't have that now can we?  ;)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Lol&#8211;excellent write up R! <img src='http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
	<p>Zia definitely took things a bit far by making khabarnama incomprehensible, &amp; I too have no idea what the anthem means. </p>
	<p>You raise interesting points on culture. When is it an indigenous &amp; natural mutation (e.g., Ramzaan) &amp; when is it incorrect? </p>
	<p>If a Westerner says Mozlem, Izlam, or Achmed, what&#8217;s wrong with that? That&#8217;s just the way their palate works right? I think the finer point you make is the sense of superiority/chauvanism involved. Of course the whole concept of adaab arz, Persian, etc., was just as imperialistc as Arabic is now but we associate it with corn flakes &amp; childhood so it seems cozier. </p>
	<p>Dr Abdullah of the Nawawi Foundation makes an interesting point about &#8220;khuda&#8221; which he terms an ancient &amp; honorable word for God, interchangeable with Allah. Sometimes we get so lost in the bars of the letters that we forget what they&#8217;re pointing to. It&#8217;s like Muslims I meet here who refuse to use the word God &amp; always insist on saying &#8220;Allah&#8221; to non-Muslims &amp; then get miffed that they think we worship some pagan deity!</p>
	<p>BTW, I&#8217;m going to keep saying Ramadhan because otherwise I&#8217;ll have to do the desi head bobby thingy &amp; we can&#8217;t have that now can we?  <img src='http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>Cheers!
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		<title>by: raven</title>
		<link>http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/2005/10/05/linguistic-imperialism/#comment-157</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:05:49 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Dear M. Chowdhury: thanks for visiting and reading. 

sepoy, my friend: I sense an origin-of-language post coming. To the archives, Batman!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dear M. Chowdhury: thanks for visiting and reading. </p>
	<p>sepoy, my friend: I sense an origin-of-language post coming. To the archives, Batman!
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		<title>by: sepoy</title>
		<link>http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/2005/10/05/linguistic-imperialism/#comment-156</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:32:18 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Quite a rant, mate. The Arabisation of Urdu started not so benignly under the Islamization of Zia and, benignly, when massive population got the Dubai Chalo! fever. By the time, these folks started returning [mid-to late 80s], the pernicious Arabic had gotten a hold of them. I am sure I am the only one in my family who says Adab and Khuda Hafiz anymore. And I am a Lahori Kashmiri. So, the days are dire.

As to the innliallah chap, holy smokes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Quite a rant, mate. The Arabisation of Urdu started not so benignly under the Islamization of Zia and, benignly, when massive population got the Dubai Chalo! fever. By the time, these folks started returning [mid-to late 80s], the pernicious Arabic had gotten a hold of them. I am sure I am the only one in my family who says Adab and Khuda Hafiz anymore. And I am a Lahori Kashmiri. So, the days are dire.</p>
	<p>As to the innliallah chap, holy smokes.
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		<title>by: Tanveer Chowdhury</title>
		<link>http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/2005/10/05/linguistic-imperialism/#comment-154</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:05:25 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>O' sorry I mistook you for someone else in SepiaMutiny....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>O&#8217; sorry I mistook you for someone else in SepiaMutiny&#8230;.
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		<title>by: Tanveer Chowdhury</title>
		<link>http://realitycafe.blogsome.com/2005/10/05/linguistic-imperialism/#comment-153</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:43:11 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>As a Bengali growing up with Hindi movies, I learned hindi from the movies. Later, back in Bangladesh, I was introduced to Urdu by our neighbour from Pakistan. 
I presume that Urdu and Hindi derived from Sanskrit and Urdu was more influenced by Farsi.
It would be interesting to know the origin of two different scripts for Urdu and Hindi.

Lately, I have been thinking about learning Urdu in order to read and understand Shers.

BTW, There are lot of Urdu words used in Bangla (in Bangladesh) as well. For example Aadab is used in Bangla. The funniest thing is, we used to Use &quot;the tongue twisting&quot; Assalamualikum to Muslims and Aadab to Hindus. 

Any way I enjoy reading your blog and inputs in SepiaMutiny...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As a Bengali growing up with Hindi movies, I learned hindi from the movies. Later, back in Bangladesh, I was introduced to Urdu by our neighbour from Pakistan.<br />
I presume that Urdu and Hindi derived from Sanskrit and Urdu was more influenced by Farsi.<br />
It would be interesting to know the origin of two different scripts for Urdu and Hindi.</p>
	<p>Lately, I have been thinking about learning Urdu in order to read and understand Shers.</p>
	<p>BTW, There are lot of Urdu words used in Bangla (in Bangladesh) as well. For example Aadab is used in Bangla. The funniest thing is, we used to Use &#8220;the tongue twisting&#8221; Assalamualikum to Muslims and Aadab to Hindus. </p>
	<p>Any way I enjoy reading your blog and inputs in SepiaMutiny&#8230;
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